[DFTB-Plus-User] SCC does not converge.

Dawid Grabarek dawid.grabarek at pwr.edu.pl
Thu Feb 18 19:43:02 CET 2016


Dear Ben,

Unfortunately, my happiness came too early... . As the optimization proceeds 
my system blows up. All bonds break down and atoms just fly into space... .
I have noticed that all oxygen and sulfur atoms get charges equal ca. +1.5 
for the "optimized" structure. In fact, the breakdown of all of my systems 
begins just after first optimization step. What would you suggest? 
Different initial charges?

Best regards,
Dawid Grabarek

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od: Ben Hourahine <benjamin.hourahine at strath.ac.uk>
data: czwartek, luty 18, 2016 16:29
temat: Re: [DFTB-Plus-User] SCC does not converge.
do: dftb-plus-user at mailman.zfn.uni-bremen.de


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>      Hello Dawid,
     > 
>      have you tried a finite electronic temperature (this can really help     with self consistency)?
>      The attached example was at 0 Kelvin, I'd suggest something like     room temperature as a first test.
     > 
>      Also the SCC tollerance you are using is quite small (try the     default value, unless there is a good reason otherwise).
     > 
>      Regards
     > 
>      Ben
     > 
     
> > On 07/02/16 21:11, Dawid Grabarek       wrote:
            >        Dear DFTB+ Experts,
       > 
>        I want to perform geometry optimization of a system consisting of       increasing 
>        number of amino acid residues.
>        I have managed to successfully perform optimization for system up       to 
>        1870 atoms, using non-SCC DFTB approach.
>        However when I want to use SCC-DFTB3 for system larger than 460       atoms, 
>        the charges do not converge even after a few thousand iterations.       The iteration 
>        does not proceed in fact.
>        I attach part of my output file:
       > 
>         9976   -0.21529827E+03   -0.13123659E+02    0.53106709E+01
>         9977   -0.17459612E+03    0.40702148E+02    0.53210677E+01
>         9978   -0.20103686E+03   -0.26440744E+02    0.53230816E+01
>         9979   -0.24096058E+03   -0.39923717E+02    0.53269557E+01
>         9980   -0.19704089E+03    0.43919692E+02    0.53385778E+01
>         9981   -0.21818849E+03   -0.21147597E+02    0.53345550E+01
>         9982   -0.25301554E+03   -0.34827052E+02    0.53358740E+01
>         9983   -0.27482831E+03   -0.21812768E+02    0.53316452E+01
>         9984   -0.29608303E+03   -0.21254728E+02    0.53454981E+01
>         9985   -0.26626843E+03    0.29814602E+02    0.53557124E+01
>         9986   -0.29473653E+03   -0.28468098E+02    0.53569507E+01
>         9987   -0.25516950E+03    0.39567029E+02    0.53763278E+01
>         9988   -0.28536057E+03   -0.30191072E+02    0.53798582E+01
>         9989   -0.28895556E+03   -0.35949882E+01    0.53806192E+01
>         9990   -0.22896112E+03    0.59994443E+02    0.53836906E+01
>         9991   -0.22485550E+03    0.41056157E+01    0.53812648E+01
>         9992   -0.22164301E+03    0.32124948E+01    0.53759401E+01
>         9993   -0.16929036E+03    0.52352651E+02    0.53873225E+01
>         9994   -0.19352833E+03   -0.24237970E+02    0.53825003E+01
>         9995   -0.16294863E+03    0.30579698E+02    0.53834931E+01
>         9996   -0.11288863E+03    0.50060003E+02    0.53970748E+01
>         9997   -0.10136437E+03    0.11524262E+02    0.53984882E+01
>         9998   -0.10537121E+03   -0.40068449E+01    0.53984460E+01
>         9999   -0.84099319E+02    0.21271891E+02    0.53857706E+01
>        10000   -0.76159647E+02    0.79396717E+01    0.53785016E+01
>         
>         Total Energy:                     -66.7997002259 H
>         Total Mermin free energy:         -66.7997002259 H
>        ERROR!
>        -> SCC is NOT converged, maximal SCC iterations exceeded
       > 
>        I know that going up to 10 000 is crazy but just wanted to see       what will happen.
       > 
>        Anyway, I also attach two input files for systems for which I       cannot 
>        reach the SCC convergence. What is more I also attach a PDF file       which contains 
>        various parameters combination that I used to check whether       changing 
>        parameters and Mixer will allow to reach convergence. 
>        I did that based on what I read in paper by V. Eyert (Journal of
>        Computational Physics, 124, 271-285, 1996).
       > 
>        Best wishes,
       > 
>        Dawid Grabarek
       > 
       > 
       > 
>        -------
>        Dawid Grabarek, M.Sc.
>        Wroclaw University of Technology
>        Faculty of Chemistry
>        Advanced Materials Modelling and Engineering Group
       > 
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