[DFTB-Plus-User] MD in liquid water

Christopher Mark Maupin cmaupin at hec.utah.edu
Wed Oct 7 22:54:10 CEST 2009


Paulo,
 I am unable to comment on the parser.  I removed all references to N 
and C in my test case, and it originally did not converge.  Only after I 
changed the electronic temp did the system start to converge.  So, on 
this limited test I would say the electronic temp was the issue. 
Generally speaking, if you are not using N then don't include 
information on them in the input.  It is cleaner and less confusing this 
way.

Best wishes,

Mark

Paulo Cesar Piquini wrote:
> Dear Christopher and Ben,
>
> I implemented the suggested changes in my input file and it works!
> That is great
> Thanks a lot.
> Do you guys really think there is a bug in the parser?
>
> Yours
> Paulo Piquini
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Christopher Mark Maupin 
> <cmaupin at hec.utah.edu <mailto:cmaupin at hec.utah.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Paulo,
>      I agree with Ben that having N terms in the file may be an issue.  I
>     took you file and striped out all the carbons leaving just the
>     water.  I
>     then ran the code (with the H and O *.skf files) and the system
>     did not
>     converge.  I then noticed you had your Filling = Fermi {
>     Temperature[Kelvin] = 0}.  I changed this this to be in agreement with
>     the system temp of 300.0 K.  The system then converged in 28
>     cycles the
>     first step, and 10 - 12 cycles for the next few steps.
>     When I had question about this issue it was suggested that I use the
>     same electronic temperature as MD temp in addition to
>     AdaptFillingTemperature = Yes.
>     I sure hope this helps
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Mark
>     > Hello Paulo,
>     >
>     > the problem seems to be set of by the nitrogen atoms in the
>     > input. Your structure doesn't actually have any N atoms, but
>     there are
>     > several places where there are settings for these, which when
>     commented
>     > out/removed should cure the problem:
>     >
>     > TypeNames = {"O" "H" "C"}# "N"}
>     >
>     > #    N-H = "N-H.skf"
>     > #    H-N = "H-N.skf"
>     > #    C-N = "C-N.skf"
>     > #    N-C = "C-N.skf"
>     > #    N-N = "N-N.skf"
>     > #    O-N = "O-N.skf"
>     > #    N-O = "O-N.skf"
>     >
>     > #    N = "p"
>     >
>     > it looks like you have found a bug in the parsing of the input in
>     > this case.
>     >
>     > Regards
>     >
>     > Ben
>     >
>     > Paulo Cesar Piquini wrote:
>     >
>     >> Dear Mark,
>     >>
>     >> attached you will see the input and the output files of one of
>     my tests.
>     >> I played with some variables as timestep and others but the
>     result was
>     >> similar or worst.
>     >> As you will see, the SCC cycle does not achieve convergence. If one
>     >> increases the number of iterations, it goes well until some
>     cycle and
>     >> then the problem appears again.
>     >> Thanks
>     >>
>     >> Yours
>     >> Paulo
>     >>
>     >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Christopher Mark Maupin
>     >> <cmaupin at hec.utah.edu <mailto:cmaupin at hec.utah.edu>
>     <mailto:cmaupin at hec.utah.edu <mailto:cmaupin at hec.utah.edu>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     DEar Paulo Cesar Piquini,
>     >>      I have conducted several liquid water simulations and have
>     not seen
>     >>     this issue.  Can you please attach your input file and the
>     output file.
>     >>
>     >>     Best wishes,
>     >>
>     >>     Mark
>     >>
>     >>     Paulo Cesar Piquini wrote:
>     >>     > Dear users of DFTB+
>     >>     >
>     >>     > I am a new user of DFTB+ and Iam having difficulties to
>     make the SCC
>     >>     > cycle to converge when I simulate a liquid water at 300 K.
>     >>     > Have someone already performed similar calculations
>     successfully?
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Thanks
>     >>     > Paulo Piquini
>     >>     >
>     >>     > --
>     >>     > Paulo Cesar Piquini
>     >>     > Departamento de Física
>     >>     > Universidade Federal de Santa Maria
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>     >>     > e-mail: ppiquini at gmail.com <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com>>
>     >>     <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com <mailto:ppiquini at gmail.com>>>;
>     >>     > ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br>
>     <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br>>
>     >>     <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br
>     <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br> <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br
>     <mailto:ppiquini at smail.ufsm.br>>>
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> Universidade Federal de Santa Maria
> 97105-900
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> Brasil
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